George W. Bush is certainly not the first president to preside over an unpopular war. Join Ben Merens and his guest expert after four with an historical perspective on past presidents, their wars, and the lessons we can draw for today.
Guest: Dick Haven, Dean of the College of Arts and Communication, Professor of Communication, UW- Whitewater.
After five, Ben Merens and his guest discuss the latest headlines from space: water on Mars, the current shuttle mission, and NASA's plan for a permanent Moon base.
Guest: Jim Oberg, former Space Shuttle mission control engineer, NASA. Author. Space consultant, NBC News. www.jamesoberg.com


1 Comments:
Anyway, thanks for the show Ben. You're the best!
But I was taken slightly aback when the caller who asked about this new moon base as weapons platform was cut off. Clearly the guest did not wish to address that issue.
Instead we're supposed to believe this new moon base is a soft and cuddly fun project so kids can learn "more good" in school and where all sorts of groovy new things will be invented that for some mysterious reason can't be thought up on earth (like Tang and solar panels).
But my suspicions side with the caller who was cut off. The original "space race" was a competition between the USA and the old USSR. Is it any coincidence that this return to the moon comes at a time when ever-more-powerful China is taking its first steps into space?
Clearly, we went to the moon several times in the late 1960s and early 70s. But when we got there we found out the place was a DEAD uninhabitable world. We weren't stupid then. If the moon had any value for mankind we would have stayed and developed the place. Instead we found moon dust, rocks, and no air to breathe. Mars is even worse because it is so much farther away.
But I suppose the moon would have some value as a military weapons base. Especially for a country seeking to dominate the nearby planet earth with high-tech weapons and obcessed with fighting a war on terror, or as Mr. Bush pronounces it: "war on terra."
Otherwise it seems really stupid to spend countless billions so that a few people can live in underground tanks buried on the moon. If NASA want to rough it so badly, why not get a cardboard box and send some people to live under some inner city bridge? It would be lots cheaper and they'd probably learn more of value....
Doug from Douglas County
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